It happened in some manner, in our hearts if nothing else...
[He'll apply that to mistakes with other people but not himself. That one timeline he remembers much more clearly than anything in the false future, the one where he had lost the last sliver of hope he'd ever managed to hold on to, that wasn't real. He doesn't have to think too hard about it.]
I'm...certain immortality is what I'm meant for now, and certain of the company I've chosen to keep in it. So, yes, I-...having experienced otherwise, I'm doing well. I know I could be worse.
That's good, that he has a friend here now. I can't imagine he took it well. Immortality can be a good thing, but it doesn't make a particularly pleasant surprise...
[He remembers the moment it made him break down... He's lucky he isn't inclined to the route Peter took.]
Oh, I know. I slept an entire day after it all ended...
[But more importantly...] I knew that, too, what it was for. I meant- now, looking back on how he was, he must- I know he wouldn't...he would regret what he had become. He stepped in to help everyone however he could, you know, even if it was only sharing music.
Unbiased? You were traveling with him, weren't you?
[He didn't see the rest of his post, unfortunately. He'd seen Beckett get upset at his own death video and ditched any effort to keep an eye on it then and there. So he has no idea what happened between Flynn and Peter after that. He knows they'd begun to argue and that they had been together in the vague sense that he'd picked it up sometime during the imagined time, but...that's about it. He just knows Flynn would've seen all of it and not just what was on the network, at least.]
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[Flynn sobers at the thought. Even though his head is filled with an entire new set of fake memories he's still working through, their perceived lifetime in this city and the changes in Peter he lived through are still painful to revisit.]
Couldn't stop it from happening. I tried, you know? I mean, I think I did, everything has become really fuzzy in the aftermath, I don't remember the details but I remember... I remember trying.
Trying only goes so far from a mortal person, I'm afraid. After all, it's-... likely that to him you were the second or third Flynn in the town and that you were long dead. That's how I saw my own mortal companions. It makes attempts to help, ah...difficult. Painful, even.
[He swallows. He doesn't want to discourage Flynn but it's an unfortunate truth. The thing that had kept him grounded, in the end, hadn't been his self-appointed mission to see the mortals were as comfortable as he could make them, but the fact that Beckett was still alive, even if he had abandoned his sapience along the way to keep from breaking.]
[Flynn's voice takes a sharper turn at that. He understands the sentiment, can rationally wrap his head around the existential horror of the centuries but Enoch's explanation brings back other memories he actively tries to bury. Peter, angry and hurting, hurling those awful words at him.
You're dead to me! Who cares if I kill you, you're already dead!]
You two are not the first Immortals I've met. Maybe I can't relive what it must be like suffering through all that, fine. But I know it's possible to see mortals in a different light.
[Being lumped in with Peter's behavior hurts, absurdly so for something he never meant to imply. He's more vulnerable than he cares to admit, himself. He starts out vehement, defending the vulnerable spot because he remembers all too well what happened to him in the alternate timeline where he was broken completely. His voice begins breaking almost immediately.]
Of course it is - it isn't about how we perceive you, it's about the inevitable truth of your mortality! The fact that you will one day die and for people like me, like Peter, like Beckett and Castiel and the two nations, you had, multiple times. The town was taunting us by using the brain maps of the deceased versions, that's how the illusion of time was maintained. That you weren't the exact same person but you thought you were. And it hurt all the worse. While everything was happening for the first time from your perspective, from ours, you were another version, another Flynn from another timeline, as if the town was trying to pull every version of you it could here to die.
[And now, with the momentum of words suspended for a second, he finds himself fighting tears.]
We cannot change this. We can change how we react to it. Peter's reaction was wrong. Any one of us could see that. But there's a reason the majority of immortals here chose to withdraw rather than continue to engage as Castiel and I did. Not everyone can manage that on their own. I didn't manage it on my own.
That doesn't make your lives meaningless, this hindrance to your efforts. I never said it did. In fact, I tried to convince him of the opposite. That mortals could still make a personal difference. That conversation was real. It's here, on my tablet. It happened, I tried...
I didn't succeed, I think...but don't- don't say my expression of my pain means I see you as somehow less. Please. I never did, and I have never tried.
[Sometimes Flynn thinks he should maybe just quit social interaction altogether. When Enoch's voice cracks and changes with the unquestionable sound of tears it is definitely one of those times, because no, no, what is happening, that's not what he wanted? His eyes widen slightly like a kid that got caught doing something bad and he stutters through Enoch's speech, cheeks burning as he tries to form a response.]
No, I didn't-- I wasn't--
[This is all too much right now and Flynn finds himself stuck in a weird spiral of feeling guilty and defensive and angry. But it's all displaced and impossible to put into words, a jumbled mess of too many different issues blending together, impossible to untangle and he finds himself unable to explain.]
Peter and I, we had a fight. [More like hundreds but who's counting.] It was... it was pretty bad.
What you said reminded me of it. I shouldn't have taken it out on you, I'm sorry.
Apology accepted, but it's- [He fights to control his breathing, get it steady again.] -not entirely you. Some of my altered memories were...upsetting.
[So he's overly sensitive to these things, too. He sniffs, when his breathing is moderately controlled. It's really only an outward control, as anything he ever seems in control of often is.]
I'm sorry, for what happened between you. And for my part in reminding you of it.
[Flynn listens awkwardly for Enoch's attempts to regain control and wow, he feels really bad now. Maybe he should just switch to text but that would be... incredibly rude, probably. He's just glad they didn't do this via video to begin with.]
[Does he want to talk? He isn't sure. Having a better idea of what's going on in his mind might lead to less accidental outbursts like this. Every conversation has become a minefield of things that tear open wounds lately, and neither he nor the other party ever seem to see it coming.
On the other...it still feels wrong to focus on his hurt when someone else is just as wounded.]
I'm...I'm not sure you'd want to hear it. It's very bleak.
[Aside from the perfectly useless "don't do that". Considering the things that stood out to him as different about this particular timeline seemed like good things at the time didn't help.]
...I gave up. In this other...timeline, session, whatever it is, I gave up.
[He pauses to draw another slow breath.]
I'm unsure there's any advice you could give that isn't incredibly obvious and also much easier said than done.
[Flynn makes good on his promise and he does listen, falling back on his bed for the night as Enoch's voice comes out of the tablet. Giving up. It's true, there's hardly any advice that he can give and they're probably all tired of it didn't really happen at this point. He closes his eyes for a moment and tries to picture it, being in that situation, just letting go of everything.
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[When he gets a response Flynn relaxes but he turns more solemn when the conversation lingers on Peter.]
Perhaps. Or perhaps I should have been a better friend, it's... It wasn't real. Don't beat yourself up over it.
[He's trying not to.]
So you're doing okay?
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[He'll apply that to mistakes with other people but not himself. That one timeline he remembers much more clearly than anything in the false future, the one where he had lost the last sliver of hope he'd ever managed to hold on to, that wasn't real. He doesn't have to think too hard about it.]
I'm...certain immortality is what I'm meant for now, and certain of the company I've chosen to keep in it. So, yes, I-...having experienced otherwise, I'm doing well. I know I could be worse.
[What a strange place to find hope.]
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[He means that. In between all the dreary hopelessness and depression it's refreshing to get a response like that.]
And I guess you have a point. Real or not, it certainly had a lingering impact.
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[The answer is probably some shade of "no", but he has to ask.]
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He's getting better. I think it's good that one of his friends is here now. It will help him a lot.
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[He remembers the moment it made him break down... He's lucky he isn't inclined to the route Peter took.]
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[Flynn rubs his forehead, not too keen on reliving the memories.]
It's just very confusing to have all that in your head.
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[But more importantly...] I knew that, too, what it was for. I meant- now, looking back on how he was, he must- I know he wouldn't...he would regret what he had become. He stepped in to help everyone however he could, you know, even if it was only sharing music.
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[He smiles.] Even did the karaoke thing for everyone.
[Not that Flynn would have participated in a million years but he appreciates the sentiment for everyone who did.]
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[Yeah they've covered this. He trails off, only to add:]
...I'm glad he's going to have some more help now.
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I mean I'm trying to be there but I'm not exactly... you know.
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[He didn't see the rest of his post, unfortunately. He'd seen Beckett get upset at his own death video and ditched any effort to keep an eye on it then and there. So he has no idea what happened between Flynn and Peter after that. He knows they'd begun to argue and that they had been together in the vague sense that he'd picked it up sometime during the imagined time, but...that's about it. He just knows Flynn would've seen all of it and not just what was on the network, at least.]
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[Flynn sobers at the thought. Even though his head is filled with an entire new set of fake memories he's still working through, their perceived lifetime in this city and the changes in Peter he lived through are still painful to revisit.]
Couldn't stop it from happening. I tried, you know? I mean, I think I did, everything has become really fuzzy in the aftermath, I don't remember the details but I remember... I remember trying.
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[He swallows. He doesn't want to discourage Flynn but it's an unfortunate truth. The thing that had kept him grounded, in the end, hadn't been his self-appointed mission to see the mortals were as comfortable as he could make them, but the fact that Beckett was still alive, even if he had abandoned his sapience along the way to keep from breaking.]
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[Flynn's voice takes a sharper turn at that. He understands the sentiment, can rationally wrap his head around the existential horror of the centuries but Enoch's explanation brings back other memories he actively tries to bury. Peter, angry and hurting, hurling those awful words at him.
You're dead to me! Who cares if I kill you, you're already dead!]
You two are not the first Immortals I've met. Maybe I can't relive what it must be like suffering through all that, fine. But I know it's possible to see mortals in a different light.
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Of course it is - it isn't about how we perceive you, it's about the inevitable truth of your mortality! The fact that you will one day die and for people like me, like Peter, like Beckett and Castiel and the two nations, you had, multiple times. The town was taunting us by using the brain maps of the deceased versions, that's how the illusion of time was maintained. That you weren't the exact same person but you thought you were. And it hurt all the worse. While everything was happening for the first time from your perspective, from ours, you were another version, another Flynn from another timeline, as if the town was trying to pull every version of you it could here to die.
[And now, with the momentum of words suspended for a second, he finds himself fighting tears.]
We cannot change this. We can change how we react to it. Peter's reaction was wrong. Any one of us could see that. But there's a reason the majority of immortals here chose to withdraw rather than continue to engage as Castiel and I did. Not everyone can manage that on their own. I didn't manage it on my own.
That doesn't make your lives meaningless, this hindrance to your efforts. I never said it did. In fact, I tried to convince him of the opposite. That mortals could still make a personal difference. That conversation was real. It's here, on my tablet. It happened, I tried...
I didn't succeed, I think...but don't- don't say my expression of my pain means I see you as somehow less. Please. I never did, and I have never tried.
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No, I didn't-- I wasn't--
[This is all too much right now and Flynn finds himself stuck in a weird spiral of feeling guilty and defensive and angry. But it's all displaced and impossible to put into words, a jumbled mess of too many different issues blending together, impossible to untangle and he finds himself unable to explain.]
Peter and I, we had a fight. [More like hundreds but who's counting.] It was... it was pretty bad.
What you said reminded me of it. I shouldn't have taken it out on you, I'm sorry.
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[So he's overly sensitive to these things, too. He sniffs, when his breathing is moderately controlled. It's really only an outward control, as anything he ever seems in control of often is.]
I'm sorry, for what happened between you. And for my part in reminding you of it.
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Do you... want to talk about it? Your memories?
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On the other...it still feels wrong to focus on his hurt when someone else is just as wounded.]
I'm...I'm not sure you'd want to hear it. It's very bleak.
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[He shrugs.]
I'm not sure if I'll have any advice for you. I'm not exactly... I'm not an advice-giving kind of... person, but, I guess I can listen?
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[Aside from the perfectly useless "don't do that". Considering the things that stood out to him as different about this particular timeline seemed like good things at the time didn't help.]
...I gave up. In this other...timeline, session, whatever it is, I gave up.
[He pauses to draw another slow breath.]
I'm unsure there's any advice you could give that isn't incredibly obvious and also much easier said than done.
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Eventually,]
That must be difficult to come back from.
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[He doesn't want to talk about it. But he's already on edge, and those feelings too stubborn.]
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