And you didn't really think deaths were entertaining at all, of course.
[He sighs.]
What can you think of that you enjoy?
[And he expects the answer to not amount to much. He's much more familiar with what depression is and can do by now. He's been there, at times, himself, that point where nothing seems to help at all. And it's something most of them likely have by now...]
Well, if I'm being completely honest, some of them were funny. At one point. [Hundreds of years ago probably.]
I don't know.
[Not much of an answer, no.]
I just...people are interesting, even if I've seen this song and dance before. Sometimes they do something different. They're the only thing that changes. Sorta. If you say something outrageous and they get angry, that's the most excitement I've seen in ages.
[...he really didn't meant to reveal that much to him, but once he started, he figured he might as well keep going.]
Aside from asking them to volunteer embarrassing moments from their lives, you might like starting constructive debates. Put up for discussion a topic that people are divided on but that has no objective or overwhelmingly good answer. The most bullheaded on either side won't change, but you might see something interesting in the middle - and those open to hearing what the other side have to say will often become better people for it.
That's not the spirit of it at all. It can't be just a fight, it needs to be something people can learn from. It isn't about watching them "tear each other apart", it's about where they are at the end. About watching them better themselves through opposition.
...Peter, I don't understand how you can miss the point so entirely. Deriving pleasure from someone else's pain isn't like you. Why do you cling to it? Why do you want it?
[He lets out a weary sigh. He needs to convince Peter of this. It's gone on too long, and he can't keep allowing it. He's nearing a limit, he can feel it (with the self-awareness gained haphazardly over the centuries here), and anything that can be resolved should be.]
Would you care to guess what memory of you is strongest to me?
[He does. He can never forget it, no matter how long ago it was. It may no longer be a raw wound, but it still aches to probe.]
You were relatively new here. You knew very few people. And when all of these strangers or near-strangers were hurting worse than they ever had, though you knew nothing about any of them, you used the the charge in your Zune - limited so far as you knew - to lift their spirits with music.
That's what I remember. That the sight of their pain moved you to give something you didn't believe you could replace.
[It seemed so incredibly far away, but that wasn't something anyone could forget.
When he listens to Enoch speak, his hands grip his tablet more and more forcefully until his knuckles start to hurt, half out of surprise, half out of the pain of remembering who he used to be, and how upset he would be with himself if he knew...who he'd become.]
I...
It was no big deal.
[He's quiet though, this has hit him harder than he'd expected.]
Why haven't you given up on me? You said you care because you must, but there's got to be something more. Something more, some secret on why you really haven't you given up at all on any of this stuff?!
[This stuff, meaning the town, people--mortals, everything.]
[He knows. He knows exactly why. The reason the nightmare of his dead, flooded world did not fill him with despair, but with an urgency to return to Norfinbury. To the reason he still had left.]
I have someone to fight for. A cherished friend who keeps my love and hope alive. Your reason doesn't have to be a living person, or a person at all. It can be an object, a memory, a motto...find something that makes it easier to be true to who you really are, and cling to it. That's how we get by.
[The words are honest, and a little raw. He hasn't listened to his music in...forever, literally, he's tried his best not to think about the Guardians but that dream...it reminded him of being so stoked to save the Galaxy, to have actual friends, all of it...the music, dancing with Gamora, flying with Rocket...giving it all up to save everyone from his dad...]
I know. You're not the only one left from that time. Even if you can't find comfort in mortal company, be it yet or ever, you'll have the rest of us. You're not alone. And I know how easy it is to feel like you are.
[Despite everything, he was afraid there would come a point that he'd no longer be able to take comfort in mortal company. Maybe that point was now, maybe not. He just...as much as he berated them, it was also out of a sense of...loss. As if a random mortal person was offending him by their mere existence because they had the potential of him liking them, and then feeling their loss when they inevitably died.
But...he didn't want to have to just hang out with all immortals, either.]
You guys have to promise not to be boring.
[It's a joke, because he does feel alone, and doesn't want to say how scary it feels.]
[It's a balance, Peter - he can help. Dealing with mortals is easier with someone who won't leave around. It will probably never be easy for him or Peter the way it is for Castiel, but having someone helps. He knows this.]
...do you think there's gonna be a point where you can't relate to them anymore? Mortals? And won't be able to talk to them like, properly anymore? Because one day you're gonna wake up and it's three million years later.
No. I don't know what kind of person I'll be in three million years, but I'll still be human. I'll still need the same things they need. Food, water, safety, love. There will always be that common thread, and life itself will always be the same.
Whether or not I'll be able to bring myself to speak to them, I can't see myself failing to understand them anymore. Nothing will change the fact that I was still born among them.
[He pauses a moment longer, and then adds:]
When I was younger - comparatively so, the age I first arrived - I was afraid of this, too. I worried I would become withdrawn the way chaos and the nations have now. That I would lose some of my claim to humanity somehow. But it hasn't been as bad as I feared.
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[He sighs.]
What can you think of that you enjoy?
[And he expects the answer to not amount to much. He's much more familiar with what depression is and can do by now. He's been there, at times, himself, that point where nothing seems to help at all. And it's something most of them likely have by now...]
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I don't know.
[Not much of an answer, no.]
I just...people are interesting, even if I've seen this song and dance before. Sometimes they do something different. They're the only thing that changes. Sorta. If you say something outrageous and they get angry, that's the most excitement I've seen in ages.
[...he really didn't meant to reveal that much to him, but once he started, he figured he might as well keep going.]
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Aside from asking them to volunteer embarrassing moments from their lives, you might like starting constructive debates. Put up for discussion a topic that people are divided on but that has no objective or overwhelmingly good answer. The most bullheaded on either side won't change, but you might see something interesting in the middle - and those open to hearing what the other side have to say will often become better people for it.
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So basically instigate a fight and see people tear each other apart from it?
[He sounds a little too excited about that. Also he seems to be missing the point of what Enoch just said.]
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That's not the spirit of it at all. It can't be just a fight, it needs to be something people can learn from. It isn't about watching them "tear each other apart", it's about where they are at the end. About watching them better themselves through opposition.
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People can learn from a fight.
[It's sullen.]
How about...tear each other apart emotionally and then they learn from it?
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[He falls silent a moment, not quite sure how to answer that. Or how he could answer that.]
...I don't know.
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[He lets out a weary sigh. He needs to convince Peter of this. It's gone on too long, and he can't keep allowing it. He's nearing a limit, he can feel it (with the self-awareness gained haphazardly over the centuries here), and anything that can be resolved should be.]
Would you care to guess what memory of you is strongest to me?
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Uh...I don't know. Karaoke nights?
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[He does. He can never forget it, no matter how long ago it was. It may no longer be a raw wound, but it still aches to probe.]
You were relatively new here. You knew very few people. And when all of these strangers or near-strangers were hurting worse than they ever had, though you knew nothing about any of them, you used the the charge in your Zune - limited so far as you knew - to lift their spirits with music.
That's what I remember. That the sight of their pain moved you to give something you didn't believe you could replace.
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[It seemed so incredibly far away, but that wasn't something anyone could forget.
When he listens to Enoch speak, his hands grip his tablet more and more forcefully until his knuckles start to hurt, half out of surprise, half out of the pain of remembering who he used to be, and how upset he would be with himself if he knew...who he'd become.]
I...
It was no big deal.
[He's quiet though, this has hit him harder than he'd expected.]
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[Why else would he so vehemently cling to all of this?]
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Why haven't you given up on me? You said you care because you must, but there's got to be something more. Something more, some secret on why you really haven't you given up at all on any of this stuff?!
[This stuff, meaning the town, people--mortals, everything.]
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[He knows. He knows exactly why. The reason the nightmare of his dead, flooded world did not fill him with despair, but with an urgency to return to Norfinbury. To the reason he still had left.]
I have someone to fight for. A cherished friend who keeps my love and hope alive. Your reason doesn't have to be a living person, or a person at all. It can be an object, a memory, a motto...find something that makes it easier to be true to who you really are, and cling to it. That's how we get by.
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You're...lucky.
[The words are honest, and a little raw. He hasn't listened to his music in...forever, literally, he's tried his best not to think about the Guardians but that dream...it reminded him of being so stoked to save the Galaxy, to have actual friends, all of it...the music, dancing with Gamora, flying with Rocket...giving it all up to save everyone from his dad...]
...it was all such a long time ago.
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But...he didn't want to have to just hang out with all immortals, either.]
You guys have to promise not to be boring.
[It's a joke, because he does feel alone, and doesn't want to say how scary it feels.]
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I'll see what we can do.
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Because like, ten thousand years of watching wallpaper peel isn't exactly my idea of fun.
[Can he do this? It's not like he has a choice. He still sounds terrified, under his bravado and pretend-casualness.]
...how old are you again, exactly?
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[...That is a shitty way to tell time.]
...No. I don't remember how long we went without them, either.
Honestly, I'm not sure anymore. I've stopped counting.
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Yeah. [Probably not the best, no.]
Maybe I should stop counting. Maybe it'll make things easier.
[But there was some part of him, some part that reveled in the horror of it all, that made him want to wallow in self-pity at every passing year.]
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[Not that losing track of time is the best thing? But it does help.]
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...do you think there's gonna be a point where you can't relate to them anymore? Mortals? And won't be able to talk to them like, properly anymore? Because one day you're gonna wake up and it's three million years later.
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Whether or not I'll be able to bring myself to speak to them, I can't see myself failing to understand them anymore. Nothing will change the fact that I was still born among them.
[He pauses a moment longer, and then adds:]
When I was younger - comparatively so, the age I first arrived - I was afraid of this, too. I worried I would become withdrawn the way chaos and the nations have now. That I would lose some of my claim to humanity somehow. But it hasn't been as bad as I feared.
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